the theme of my recent comment in another thread demonstrated how in some circles the 'word/logos' had become understood to be implied within ot texts that mention an angel or destroyer (in the case of ex 12).
the comment got no response so i'll repost it now as a springboard for a further observation:.
here's another example of the extreme personification of the logos/word from the wisdom of solomon (approx.
https://www.bartehrman.com/when-were-the-gospels-written/
Some due diligence from biblical scholars, not just a matter of faith but on the evidence of their decades of independent research, some if not most were evangelical Christian at one time.
The life expectancy at that time was around 40-45 years.
The apostle were described as unlettered and ordinary men, which most likely meant they didn't have access to schooling.
14 a husband who physically or verbally abuses his wife needs to take additional steps to repair his relationship with jehovah and with his wife.
what are these steps?
first, he recognizes that he has a serious problem.
False accusations of flirting and affairs, included sister's in the hall that we had known for many years.
That i was not a good husbands, father and never worked hard enough,
Limited contact with my parents and my siblings, even though they were jws
Controlled my mobile phone even stopped me having one for a while and access to my tablet.
What I watched on tv ,
With held affection and the silent treatment sometimes for days.
Alienated me from my kids .
Wouldn't contribute to the household bills
Being critical of almost anything I did and said
Would say hateful things and mask them as a joke.
Probably more, but that's enough for now.
14 a husband who physically or verbally abuses his wife needs to take additional steps to repair his relationship with jehovah and with his wife.
what are these steps?
first, he recognizes that he has a serious problem.
Men are equally victims of domestic abuse, looking back to when we were courting there were red flags, as the years went by it intensified very slowly then about 6years I escaped with the help of domestic abuse agency for Male victims.
There was no physical violence against me only physiological manipulation and coercive control and had a effect on my physical health and to everyone else she was a nice sister in the hall .so after I left the house the elders were insisting that I returned to the marriage and I was told that a man should never leave his wife and this was repeated many times.
But again the expert help and advice from the domestic abuse agency I never did return to the abusive marriage and went through a horrendous divorce.
So please if something doesn't feel right in your marriage whether Male or female contact a domestic abuse agency avoid the elders at all costs.
Its not a easy thing to leave a abusive relationship but with the help of experts it can be done, when the time is right (took me a few years because of my kids).
If physical violence please contact the authorities asap.
Living my best life now ,free from a abusive marriage and a abusive and controlling religion, they both use the same tactics to control their victims.
jesus is the creator god, but why did he create us?
what say you?.
https://medium.com/@mythopia/twelve-creator-gods-abridged-article-c32c5ae26930
It might have also been anyone of these gods 🤔
it has been discussed on this forum many times how many gospel elements were sourced from the ot and related traditions and recast as typological 'fulfillments'.
the same is true of certain sections from acts.
i recently ran across an interesting section of the talmud that certainly seems a good candidate for the inspiration for pentecost scene in acts 2.. recall that the shavuot or pentecost festival was linked to the exodus story of the reception of the 10 commandments on mt sinai.
Thanks peacefulpete
Interesting how these authors adapted these stories and made them seem as actual events.
why do so many cult leaders have weird relationship issues and dysfunctional marriages?russell coudn't get along with his wife mariah.
rutherford had trouble with his wife and sent her away.. eric wilson says it's o.k.
if you don't get legally married as long as you have a "spiritual marriage" in his latest video response to the situation of people coming forward complaining about the abusive religious tactics his "wife" practices and he condones.. i ask this question in a previous post but it deserves it's own discussion definitely:why is it that so many cult leaders have weird relationship issues and dysfunctional marriages?.
Because they have a narcissistic personality, anyone who claims that god speaks through them or directs them has a personality disorder. It's all about them and there control over their family and anyone else who falls for their scams.
susanne eigenheer is an ex-jw and suffered religious abuse in eric wilson's group.
her personal statement and experiences within the beroean pickets study groups was one of betrayal where she was taken advantage of financially.
in one text conversation, wendy wiens disfellowshiped susanne and demanded an apology from her.
Until people recognize that religions and domestic abusers use the same tactics to manipulate and control their victims and they need to educate themselves to identify the red flags of physiological manipulation and coercive control.
When Someone escapes from a abusive relationship or religion and the victims failed to do this they will fall into the same trap again, and get involved in another controlling religion and its beliefs or another abusive relationship.
I'm a survivor of both, a abusive and controlling marriage and a abusive and controlling religion.
Please do independent research into physiological manipulation and coercive control and you will see how all religions use these tactics to control people.
https://youtu.be/on-y9pv-cja?si=lr1dar4yshvymk7a.
just a song i really like.
it don't mean nothin' .
or even this forum
I thought it was just me 😂
vicky and mike hobbs are ex jehovah’s witnesses and ex beroean pickets members their personal statements and experiences within the beroean pickets bible study groups wasn't pleasant.
and vicky was likened to the antichrist because of her differing views.
spiritual abuse is becoming more widespread and the purpose of this interview is to raise awareness, provide education around spiritual and religious abuse, and to keep the public safe.
Mark was written about AD66 -70
Matthew and Luke around AD 85-90
John AD90-100
As the average life expectancy was about 40-45 .
So biblical scholars hold that they were written by anonymous authors and not written by eyewitness.
vicky and mike hobbs are ex jehovah’s witnesses and ex beroean pickets members their personal statements and experiences within the beroean pickets bible study groups wasn't pleasant.
and vicky was likened to the antichrist because of her differing views.
spiritual abuse is becoming more widespread and the purpose of this interview is to raise awareness, provide education around spiritual and religious abuse, and to keep the public safe.
Sea breeze
If people keep preaching how great and important this jesus is, asking for evidence is not being a troll ,I have asked you many times to provide proof that he existed and your the one who has failed to provide any .
So provide independently verified evidence or just admit it's a matter of faith on your part and truth and facts don't matter.
